Kanye goes deep into thought when he talks about late Detroit producer J Dilla, who he compared to being the “Margiela of hip-hop,” his upbringing in Chicago, fashion parallels to artists and designers, and much more.

Shot for the Stones Throw documentary Our Vinyl Weighs a Ton, this exclusively rare interview shows Kanye in rare candid form and gives you insight into his mindset during that time in his life. Check out the 22 minute interview below: