Katy Perry has infamously feuded with Taylor Swift in recent times, and has been quite chummy and even had a smash hit (“E.T.”) with Kanye West, so the headlines that she called Taylor a sweetheart and Ye a villain might be a bit confusing to some. However, it’s not what it sounds like. “You’ve got to name someone the villain, someone the princess, someone the mom-, the dad-type—you know, there always have to be characters,” Katy told Elle Magazine in her new cover story. “As pop figures, we’re all characters. And the media uses that. Who is the sweetheart, who is the villain? You know. Taylor’s the sweetheart. Kanye’s the villain. That’s the narrative.” See! Not so bad after all, huh? The issue hits newsstands February 17.