We may be in for a stressful four years with Donald Trump, but there’s some hope on the horizon for 2020. In a new interview, CNBC reports that Joe Biden said:

“Yeah, I am. I am going to run in 2020… For president. And also, you know so, what the hell man, anyway.”

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He was quick to add that he’s not committing, however, as, “fate has a strange way of intervening.” The former VP had planned to run for this election, but opted out when he lost his son to cancer, so we can definitely understand his apprehension.

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