We haven’t gotten too many interviews from Desiigner since his breakout hit “Panda,” but he sat down with Pusha T for Interview Magazine and got pretty candid recently! One thing we learned about the Brooklyn native is that he comes from a musical background, and his grandfather was actually a blues player!

“[My grandfather is] a blues player. I like the old soul—you know how it is, Pusha, that old soul. My grandfather, he went by the name Sidney ‘Guitar Crusher’ Selby; he formed that old soul, that old blues, that old rock that I put on my songs. He bluesed it out. And my pops, he was old-school, too; he played that old funk. I fell in love with that old style.”